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Eagle-Mounts
Playable only at the end of the organization phase on a company with a diplomat that begins the turn at Eagles' Eyrie. Company may move to any site that is not a Shadow-hold [S] or a Dark-hold [D]. Opponent may only play hazard creatures that are keyed to the company's site.

Lindion the Oronin
MP: 1 ally
Mind: 2
Prowess/Body: 3/9
Description: Unique. Playable at Stone-circle. Tap Lindion to cancel an Animal or Spider attack. Eagle-mounts can be played on his company regardless of their site or the presence of a diplomat.

Quiet Lands
Environment. Until the end of the turn, the number of strikes for one automatic-attack at a Shadow-hold [S] or Ruins & Lairs [R] is reduced by half (round up). Alternatively, if Gates of Morning is in play, treat one Shadow-land [s] as a Wilderness [w] or one Shadow-hold [S] as a Ruins & Lairs [R] until the end of the turn. Cannot be duplicated.

ok, how does the fly to mount doom trick work
i've seen it once - with Gates of Morning and Quiet Lands but i'm not sure if it's leagal

i mean, you can't play Quiet Lands on Mount Doom when it's not in play, and you can't fly to Moount Doom cuz it's a Shadow Hold

so in my opinioin one should already have Mount Doom in play (by haveing some kind of company there) to be able to change it to Ruins so then Eagles can fly you there - i understand that you can't reveal a Shadow hold or dark hold as a site you're going to when flying, and you can't play Quiet Lands on a not-yet-revealed site....

so how does it work?

That is indeed a valid concern. I suppose it would be possible to send a little character (say Robin Smallburrow) to Lorien with Gimli, and then to Easterling Camp, and then to Mt Doom. The hope would be that he seemed to insignificant to waste multiple creatures or skinchangers on. He might, then, arrive at Mt Doom, allowing for Quiet Lands to be played. Otherwise, you're right. One would then have to try using Gwaihir, which would require getting Gorgoroth to be a wilderness... Double Stars anyone?...

|Highwayman| napisał(a):

so how does it work?

I've plopped an agent at Mt Doom (usually My Precious) and then use Withdrawn to Mordor on him after changing the site to a R/L with Quiet Lands.

Autor:	\|Highwayman\| [ N maja 23, 2004 20:24 ]
Tytuł:	Air Lift to Mount Doom
ostatnio jak Chris gral przez net a ja sie przygladalem stalo sie cos niesamowitego otuz przeciwnik Chris'a wytestował The One Ring a nastepnie polecial z Gladden Fields do Mount Doom za pomoca Eagle Mounts... JAK ON TO ZRIBIŁ???!!!??? juz tlumacze: Cytuj: Eagle-Mounts Playable only at the end of the organization phase on a company with a diplomat that begins the turn at Eagles' Eyrie. Company may move to any site that is not a Shadow-hold [S] or a Dark-hold [D]. Opponent may only play hazard creatures that are keyed to the company's site. zagranie Eagle Mounts'uw na Galdden Fields to betka, wystarczy ally z Dark Minions - Lindion the Oronin, Cytuj: Lindion the Oronin MP: 1 ally Mind: 2 Prowess/Body: 3/9 Description: Unique. Playable at Stone-circle. Tap Lindion to cancel an Animal or Spider attack. Eagle-mounts can be played on his company regardless of their site or the presence of a diplomat. (osobiscie uwazam ze to piekne combo - Lindion + Eagle-Mounts'y, jeszcze tylko sposub na wracanie ich do deck'u/na reke i przeciwnik juz kreturek na ciebie nie zagra tak łatwo, poza tym ze mozna skakac po calej mapie nie przechodzac przez zaden region) ale nadal Eagle-Mounts przeciez nie mozna uzyc zeby poleciec do shadow- lub dark-hold'u (Mount Doom to Shadow-Hold) i o to jak sobie ten koles to wykombinował: Gates of Morning + Quiet Lands Gates'y wszyscy znaja a malo osub na nie gra (bo nibo po co?) ale Quiet Lands to jenda z tych kart co nawet nie wszyscy kojażą ze istnieje, a o to co robi: Cytuj: Quiet Lands Environment. Until the end of the turn, the number of strikes for one automatic-attack at a Shadow-hold [S] or Ruins & Lairs [R] is reduced by half (round up). Alternatively, if Gates of Morning is in play, treat one Shadow-land [s] as a Wilderness [w] or one Shadow-hold [S] as a Ruins & Lairs [R] until the end of the turn. Cannot be duplicated. i juz Mount Doom jest Ruinkami a nie Shadow-Hold'em komentarze?

Autor:	kfiadeg [ Pn maja 24, 2004 1:39 ]
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noo fajne kombo! ale żeby tak nie zdjąć Gates of Morning w odpowiedzi? wstydź się bracie Highwaymana!

Autor:	Chris [ Pn maja 24, 2004 9:28 ]
Tytuł:
qrna nie bylo twilighta na lapce

Autor:	Asgaroth [ Pn maja 24, 2004 20:05 ]
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Ale trzeba przyznać, że combo było naprawdę wypaśne!!! Koleś ma łeb na karku )

Autor:	Perchen [ Śr maja 26, 2004 1:18 ]
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No a aby wracać E.M., to pewnie Erlond z pierścionkiem.

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Autor:	Konrad Klar [ Cz gru 16, 2004 0:29 ]
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Zagrywam Cave-Drake'a na BH. Osłupiony przeciwnik nie odpowiada, więc rzucam dodatkowo Gloom w alternatywie, zmieniając BH na R&L. Przedstawiam mu, co zachodzi: pierwszy w łańcuchu efektów jest Gloom i on tworzy warunek zagrywalności (R&L) dla Cave-Drake'a. I niby wszystko OK. A nie jest. Warunek zagrywalności musi istnieć zarówno przy deklaracji jak i na rozwiązaniu. W przypadku Cave-drake'a był tylko na rozwiązaniu. Powinno być raczej Gloom a potem Cave-Drake, w osobnych COE. Mount Doom musiałaby się stać R&L przed zagraniem Eagle Mounts, inaczej jest to Eagle Mounts do SH, czyli zagranie nielegalne na deklaracji. Podobnie, jeśli chcę się poruszyć o 1 czy 2 regiony więcej niż normalnie muszę odrzucić Cram, Waybread lub Twice-Baked Cakes w fazie organizacyjnej, przed deklaracją ruchu. To efektowne zagranie z Mount Doom mogłoby mieć miejsce gdyby był to site 'already in play" i zostałby zamieniony w R&L w fazie organizacyjnej, jednak może wtedy nie byłby to taki zaskakujący manewr.

Autor:	\|Highwayman\| [ Pt kwi 29, 2005 20:12 ]
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nadazyla sie okazja a ja pamietalem ze mielosmy jeszcze co do tego watpliwosci wiec oto wklejam co uzyskalem jako odpowiedz na pytanie o latanie do Mount Doom... \|Highwayman\| napisał(a): ok, how does the fly to mount doom trick work i've seen it once - with Gates of Morning and Quiet Lands but i'm not sure if it's leagal i mean, you can't play Quiet Lands on Mount Doom when it's not in play, and you can't fly to Moount Doom cuz it's a Shadow Hold so in my opinioin one should already have Mount Doom in play (by haveing some kind of company there) to be able to change it to Ruins so then Eagles can fly you there - i understand that you can't reveal a Shadow hold or dark hold as a site you're going to when flying, and you can't play Quiet Lands on a not-yet-revealed site.... so how does it work? Zarathustra napisał(a): That is indeed a valid concern. I suppose it would be possible to send a little character (say Robin Smallburrow) to Lorien with Gimli, and then to Easterling Camp, and then to Mt Doom. The hope would be that he seemed to insignificant to waste multiple creatures or skinchangers on. He might, then, arrive at Mt Doom, allowing for Quiet Lands to be played. Otherwise, you're right. One would then have to try using Gwaihir, which would require getting Gorgoroth to be a wilderness... Double Stars anyone?... Librarian napisał(a): \|Highwayman\| napisał(a): so how does it work? I've plopped an agent at Mt Doom (usually My Precious) and then use Withdrawn to Mordor on him after changing the site to a R/L with Quiet Lands. czyli w skrócie - aby zagrac Quiet Lands na Mount Doom i poleciec tam Eagle Mounts'ami site musi byc w grze wczesniej, czy to przez poslanie tam kogos wczesniej czy przez sztuczke z agentem albo mozna uzyc Gwaihir'a, ale do tego potrzeba zmienic Gorgoroth w wilderness (Gates of Morining+Fog+Stars)

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